A Conversation with author and fellow life coach Simon Arnold

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I am Dr. Diana Mercado Marmarosh. I'm a family medicine physician practicing in rural Texas. I used to be hindered by my adhd, but I now. See it as a gift that helps me show up as a person. I was always meant to be both in my work and in a personal life. In the past two years, I've come to realize that unlearning some of my beliefs and some of my habits, We're just as important as learning the new set of skills.

Hello. Hello. How is everybody doing today? I have a very special friend with me today and I'm excited because I've been wanting to get more men to come to my podcast so that we can share all the resources. So I have a very special guest his name is Simon Arnold. And he comes all the way from Germany and isn't it exciting?

And he's here to talk to us about his journey with how he got diagnosed with A D H D, but also he's actually like changing the world. He has a book and it's called The 13 Hour Life Coach. And so I wanted to just bring him here and. Have him talk to us about why he wrote the book, and I will explain a little bit about his book a little bit later.

But first I wanna introduce you to him and hear how he came about. And I, some of this that I'm asking is in the book, so you gotta. Buy the book, but he will, he'll give us

Simon Arnold: a preview. Yeah, exactly. Thank you so much Diana, it's so nice to see you again. Really? So yeah, I'm the 13 hour life coach and I was diagnosed with a D H D Wow.

Three years ago now. And I went to a psychologist and he basically flipped his book through with what ADHD was and said, I think you're right. And I was like I'm right here. And I needed to help myself. There was really no. Help for adhd, certainly three years ago, and I wrote, I think about 107 strategies to help me live with A D H D.

And And I find them to be working. So yes, .

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Awesome. I'm gonna just read what the back of his book says, because this is gonna give us so much material to dive into the conversations of this book. Simon realized one day that the external life. Distractions had disappeared and that he could read and comprehend a book for the very first time.

And he came to face with his inner voice. We all know about that inner voice, right? He was recently diagnosed with a D H D and he labeled his inner voice or he Big Mo and Big Mo basically, Is able to add clarity to his life while he's on medication. So that's the key here. He feels like he's able to concentrate for about a full 13 hours while he's on medication and every da every day.

When Big Mo leaves, then he realizes that he's thrown into a world of confusion together. Big Mo and Simon. Learn to figure out a D H D in a unique way of using diaries. So he's able to understand himself through those moments of clarity. Not only does he do that, then he turns around and he creates a successful.

Group in his town in Germany so that he could, they could each help each other learn strategies every day. He has clarity and then confusion, but obviously a strong bond happens now here he is being a coach for others. So tell us what was it like to finally get

Simon Arnold: medicated? Okay, so I was, It was during my diagnosis process, really.

My son already had ADHD and was medicated for it. I was completely under doctor's orders, allowed to take a tablet just to see how it, worked in my body really. And I took it and I found that my outer distractions were all gone. Diana the sound of the trees, the chirping of the birds at the windowsill, the yeah the cars three, three roads away.

I would hear them on a daily basis and all of a sudden I just had clarity and that was really the first and we can go in into this later. I'd search for 34 years for this. And I got to where that I where I wanted to be since I was eight years old. I knew something was wrong with me from the age of eight years old and I was determined to find out what it was.

And it was a d h D really. Yeah, the, I could concentrate for about four hours, I think. I knew exactly how I was filing paperwork at the time and I was like, wow, that goes there and that goes there and that can go in the bin. And my inner voice came out and I call him Big Mo and we can go into this bit later.

Big for just the feeling I have when he's around and mo for the moments that he's here with me. So that's really the start of everyth.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: So when you were eight years old, you said you knew. What was it that you knew? What did you feel like? Did you look around and people concentrating? Or did you feel like you were daydreaming so much?

What did you knew? At the age of

Simon Arnold: eight, I can. I can go right back to the exact, not the exact day, but I can go right back to the moment in my mind, sitting on the on the red thick carpet in England, of course, where I grew up and yeah, I was eight and I just sat there and I thought, There's something different with me.

I'm different to everyone else. I had to go on belief in faith hope and faith, and, but I had to find out what hope and faith meant, to be honest, at the age of eight. So it took a few years to get there, but I had the, I always had the inner feeling without having the inner voice. That something was wrong and I was determined to find out what it was.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: That's good that you had enough insight there and that even if it took three decades , to finally get the diagnosis. When you did it finally made sense. And that's also a sign of like understanding that we are always on our journey and we're always gonna be life learners. And realizing if you're not at a place where you want to be, Or things are not exactly as you wish them to be.

Like you have the opportunity to change stuff. And in your book, I was kinda amazed by some opportunities that you took . Oh, thank you. . You decided you wanted to become a physical therapist, is that correct? And you decided I'm not gonna do it here in my hometown. Lemme just go to another country and see what that's like.

Can you tell us what that was about? ?

Simon Arnold: Oh my God I'll never forget that I was on the computer at home when we had dial up internet. It goes bing bing. And then, The, the sound, it takes forever. And my mother was in the living room and I said, yeah, I just I feel so great. And she goes, why'd you feel so great?

I said, I've just booked a course for physiotherapy at the Best Physiotherapy school in Australia. And she says, How much that cost and I showed her what it cost on my credit card statement online. It was 6,700 pounds that I paid straight off, and she nearly fell off the chair in amazement. ?

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Yeah.

So people with A D H D are risk takers, right? ? Yeah. You describe what I think most of us with A D H D in the book about having a dream and going for the dream, but sometimes, unfortunately, the dream doesn't always pan out like you wish it would. Would you tell us a little bit about. Yeah.

Simon Arnold: Wow. It was the dream to be a physiotherapist.

So in England, we say in English, we say in England we say physical therapist. You say physical therapist. That's right. I over I, I basically, When I paid for the course in Australia, I had, I knew no one in Australia. I didn't have any money, put it on the credit card, but somehow I came, and this is where it comes from this, I somehow run into people or they come into my lives and it's hey.

My parents live like 20 minutes from the schoolwork the university where you wanna study from, so I went to Australia and due to the executive functions and memory recall, really, I just didn't have a clue. And it, I can I describe it now as just having a mind that's like a siv.

And that, whatever information comes in, it just goes straight out. Nothing stays. So I re, over a long time I tried in Australia with no funds to go further. I didn't have any money for shoes. I had to phone up my father and get, yeah, that was hard. Brunelle in London first year, no idea.

Didn't have flu. And then in Berlin, As well. And bear in mind, I spent all my free time at a friend's private practice from the age of 17. So the first attempt for physio was about 2025, so I had a good five years of solid experience in the area and still didn't do, and still even today didn't pass it.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Yeah. And so I bring that up because, I'm pretty sure if you had decided to practice physical therapy, like you would've been amazing because you picked it all up from experience, right? But again, you didn't know what you didn't know. You didn't know that your executive function, attention to detail organization, you name it, right?

Giving you the possibility or ability to only capture written stuff in a short window. And so you were picking up parts of it and your knowledge was not necessarily reflected on what you had learned in. The actual experience of being there and doing the things, and I'm sure everybody complimented you on your bedside manner and ability to, for you to optimize the treatment to each person because of how much you were so in tune with it.

But it was. The written part could have kept you out or maybe you didn't have enough time to finish test or different things like that, right? And so I bring that up because people always say, okay, they graduated from blah, blah, blah. As if the degree is what makes a person. Have the ability to quote, unquote, be labeled as success story.

But it's not that, and it's a, it's an understanding that you, there's so many different areas of knowledge and so many different things and all those, at the end of the day, while they might seem like filled experiences, their still experiences, that what I see. Got you to bet on yourself and bet on your dream and keep trying and trying.

Most people probably without a d h, ADHD would've given up after the first or second time , right? But. Not somebody who knows their why and what they want to do and so that is something that is to be admired. And all those experiences, they don't negate us. They actually propel us and they continue to help us because now you can relate to all your clients that you're teaching with a d h, ADHD because you understand exactly.

Drive and that almost stubbornness. But at the same time, it's excitement, right? Yeah. It's like a mixture of both. It's excitement for the unknown and, yeah. And I know like you're ready to move to a new country, right? Yeah. You wanna tell us about that, ?

Simon Arnold: Yes. I've wanted to move to Seattle for three years, so if anyone can help me out, please help me out.

And . It really starts in the morning with meditation and, just imagining being there and just using all different techniques possible. Yeah, just to be able to experience it. I think I said to you recently that, three years ago a and Seattle was really the A D H D hub.

Somehow, I'm not sure whether it is now, but it was really big on A D H D, which is strange because h d's coming out more now. It was different three years ago. Yeah, that's my goal. Pretty much everything at home here in Germany is pretty much sold and my goal is to land in Seattle with two suitcases at the end of September.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Woohoo. That's around the corner. , how exciting. Let I wanna ask you about that group that you formed in Germany when you finally got diagnosed with A D H D. Like what were you thinking? What was propelling you? Like, why did you decide to make this group?

Simon Arnold: Okay, so I'd written the book. I actually launched the meet up h d in the , bay where I live in Southern Germany, the group.

And it ran for 13 months. Once a week I would go and either to a park where we could go for a walk or into the town 20 kilometers away. And a lot of the time, to be honest, I just turned up hoping that people come. To be honest, I had my little A for a D, H, D, not adhd. So everyone I go, Hey, oh my God, these are the weird guys.

I just wanted a, I just wanted the A, so it looks like maybe it's insignificant, right? Except to my group. I knew that other people needed help cuz I didn't get hit. That's why ,

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: and how was it? What did you, I know you went with no expectations and I know you went because you didn't want others to go through what you went through.

What kind of friendships did you develop?

Simon Arnold: Here's the twister. Okay, so the meetup group ran for 13 months. People would continuously write to me and say, yes, I'll be there. And I turn up at the event. And there was one summer in particular. It was so busy for my d h d brain in a beer garden. It was so full.

The lady had given me a table in the middle of all of these hundreds of people, and no one turned up. Basically the characters like Riker in the story for the walking and everything else. That's really experiences of my own because A D H D didn't have the open following like it does now. I am really sad to say actually.

For 13 months, not one person turned up. And then three days after I canceled the course, I met the first person and just had the most amazing connection ever with our, with both of our inner voices. And and we helped each other. But that was hard. That was hard. So I basical. I all the stories in, the walking and the, and everything in the chapter, which I'm talking about.

They're all my experiences, but I real experiences, but I put them into different characters to explain it so much better.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: And that's the thing with a D H D, like sometimes we overcommit or sometimes. We are just not good at timing. . Yeah, true. We have the best intentions. Yeah. And so sometimes it just doesn't happen.

Or like you said, three years ago, label was not something necessarily to scream at the top of your lungs. Because even for me, you, we, you and I had this conversation. Three people knew I had a D h D three years ago. Yeah. Yeah. And now it's I say it like it's sky's blue type of thing.

Yeah. But it's because of the work that we have to do with the inner voice, like you said, because our mind might tell us that we are broken. And and it's a running thing and we don't want anybody to know that we're broken, and it's not true. It's just our mind is different. It's like being left-handed instead of right-handed.

And there's nothing wrong with that. It's just that you maybe weren't aware that your innate thing was this way and we being conditioned to do it the other way due to culture, due to society due to expectations of gender roles, you name it, and so again, that also shows your ability to keep showing up, right?

Like you kept showing up regardless. Yeah. And so all those seem like it's the bittersweetness of it, like you said, like when you decide, okay, screw this , and then you have the most basic conversation. It's almost like society's okay, fine. I guess the universe will conspire against you to make it work.

Yeah. Thing is, like you said, you're getting closer to the A D H D hub in Seattle, and hopefully in November we can meet in person at the chat conference. That'll be great. . Yeah, like there you will see like your tribe, like every single person in the room, just picture like 2000 people a, d, adhd.

, and they're giving like lectures and they'll be giving the lecture and then halfway they're. What was I saying? And everybody's laughing. They're he, and they're like, no, I'm serious. I lost my train of thought.

Simon Arnold: Where was I? . Yeah, exactly. It went out that way. . Yeah.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: And so it's like the norm.

And it's funny, and it, and you don't have to explain it because people just know and yeah. So I think that your book. So good at explaining some of those cultural cha like some things that, like you said, I grew up in UN, in England, and then you going and marrying your wife from Germany and living in Germany and the difference in their style of speaking and.

You trying to make sense of all of it. And it's in, in us realizing that we, with a d, adhd, I think we, we learned to use people pleasing skills to survive and at some point we don't realize that. No, I just have to be myself. Like I don't have to do anything else. And we forget who ourselves our true, authentic self is, but it is this work.

This is why now you're a life coach to help us to be ourselves. And so what do you think was like one of the hardest thing in, in writing this book? Because like to me, I'm amazed like one day maybe I'll write a book, but to me right now that's something that's oh my god, that's mind blowing.

But I know you. Thousands upon thousands, about thousands of pages that you write, and this is how your mind helps you clarify things. What do you think was the funnest or hardest thing in writing this book?

Simon Arnold: The easiest thing was actually spending two days every day for a year and a half writing the book.

That was what, then people are in one. The 1% of writers that actually do this, I wasn't as good as Stephen King. Stephen King managed three hours a day. I think JK Rowling managed two, two hours a day, and I wanted to stick with that. And I did. I did that quite easily with my journalism background.

I'd written a diary every single day since 2006, every single day, so I could actually compare. Was different now than it was back then. I had half maybe a quarter written a book on culture as well. And I pretty much put everything together. But there's a really good point that I just wanna bring out actually.

Of course I live in Germany. I speak fluent German, which is fine, but I actually never felt part of society in England. I never felt part of society in Australia and also in Germany. So that means that I've never. I've belonged to any, anyone or anywhere. And this is where self-care comes from. If you've got no sense of belonging to other people or social systems, like I've got zero.

You build up the insight because that's where it all comes from, right? And I know that for my whole life. Hopefully with the A D H D chat conference and this area, this is my tri. But up until right now and this day I've I've always had to do it by myself and lead from myself, through myself as, give myself as much confidence as possible to go on, that's, if that answers the question.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Yeah. And that's one of the hardest thing I think because our brain is conditioned to not think that way. Our brain is conditioned to think in the negative to make us think no, let me keep you safe. Cuz that's gonna be bad if you do that. And you're right, like community.

And belonging, like those are the things that are primitive and need needfulness. Like we all want to be loved and accepted. And if one of those two is threatened, like our identity or self-worth or self understanding of self, like just get shattered and exactly. That's why I created the A D H D group for physicians.

And again, it was not because here I am and I got all my shit together, but it's because I have figured out some steps and I wanted to share that. And in normalizing it. You then learn more steps and you learn from each other and you enhance each other and it, and we're not doing it again cuz we're broken, but we're doing it because we're just trying to be curious to see if there's a different way.

And all along you have to be that true. Both internal true leader and also that like referee no stop. You're being, you're gone way too far in. But at the same time, like we know that sometimes our brain like will tell us things and it can be traumatic and that's why it's important to realize that inner dialogue and that self-reflection, whether it's through meditation or it is through writing is so powerful when we actually sit down and do it because makes you focus.

like it makes you focus on what it is that you're trying to put on paper, right? Like not just sentences and sometimes yes they can free flow, but then you can go back and understand what you were trying to point at. And it's so much easier. And I think that most of us don't want to sit down and do that because we have this sense of it has to be right the first time, but.

You didn't learn to walk the first time like you needed to try different things. So that was genius that you gave yourself two hours every day because it's not in wanting to do two hours for two weeks and putting all this pressure on yourself to have this perfect product, but it was a, the muscle, the repetition, the trusting of yourself that something from there was gonna be life changing or worth sharing with the world.

Simon Arnold: Yeah. They, they say when you've written a book then the work starts. You have to basically every day you have to promote the book, of course. And just keep going. Do you wanna know the reason why I started the podcast, which by the way, next week is its first year anniversary.

Woohoo. So tell us. So I'd written the book and I was like, is this for real with this a d h D? Am I the only one experiencing this? And my first ever episode was called Blackouts, right? That I just basically came to the. Realization that there's no way I could have a blackout because I couldn't store the information in my brain anyway.

Cause it was like a si coming out. Yeah, I did a whole season, of course, 13 episodes, you're magic

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: 13, huh? .

Simon Arnold: Yeah. It's amazing. And and then I spoke to Annie Bush a a brain coach and she actually said about, the free frontal cortex with the medication actually getting the signals and.

Retaining the information and basically said that blackouts, what I'd said on the very first episode was true . And and then the guest series started and I was like, Hey, we've got stuff in common as well. You feel the way I feel, whether it's male or female. And then of course we met, didn't we?

And, Narissa Bower and everyone I wanted then of course, To move from normal people with a D H D to medical professionals like yourself to actually say this is how we all feel as a generation and the people. Let's put it to the doctors and see if it holds water.

And it did. I'm running in typical A D H D style for the one year anniversary. I'm running three seasons at. So I'm running the Kids Edition ages six to 12. The Gen Z edition 13 to 19 for girls, young women, adolescents and season nine, which is adults. Can I explain what, what's coming , please do.

I'm now launching within the next week a it's called the gen. High functioning d h D program for the ages of 13 to 19, and it's a 12 week course. The mothers that have got in contact with me, especially for girls as well, from the ages of 13 to 19, we have a half an hour conversation twice a week.

It's what's gonna happen. We go through a theme. I'm very flexible with what they need to go through. It's always best that, a parent actually accompanies the teenager during the chat as well. Whatever age it is, really boy, boys or girls or young adults. And we just go there and we just do this together and just make progress in the best way possible.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. It's so good to be able to have a community of the same age group and it doesn't matter. Once we are adults, like we all. Mingle and stuff, but there is a difference when you're talking to kiddos versus when you're talking to adult. And so it's good that you are giving them each their space to be able to have that flexibility.

But yeah, that's her A D H D we. Yeah, there was a time also, like I just realized, like in January, I started my 10th cohort. I didn't realize it was my 10th cohort. Like I've just been doing this for about two years. But in one moment in time, just like you, I had three cohorts going at the same time, plus a full-time job, plus you name it, right?

And. . When we get excited about something and we are aligned with our purpose of what is meant to be, it doesn't feel at work. It feels so much fun. And then you're like, oh my God, I'm getting a little tired. Maybe I should slow down a little or reevaluate how to do things. But yeah, that's so cool. So tell me more about do you have another, like bookwork or is it just going to be your coaching for.

Simon Arnold: The second book's already written. . Yeah. I just need to basically edit it and then publish it. Perfect. There's lots of things going forward there. Lots of things. .

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: That's amazing. Can you do one, you ready for the sec? The second one's written and now it's gonna give published soon. That's so

Simon Arnold: good.

Yeah. Yeah. And I talk about quantum theory. I will really go deep into metaphysics and actually. It is really neuroscience kind of geeky stuff, to be honest in certain areas. But also and people have said to me, how can you do this A D H D stuff? It's really heavy. And I said if you look at me, it's, I don't make it heavy at all.

We know that there's some real serious issues. If I can explain a serious issue actually The re the time when I was writing my book, there was a Canadian study. And this is what has gravitated me towards teenagers actually is the fact that the suicide rate for males was 5% and it was 9% for females.

And then they did, so that was April, 2020. I think. I'd have to have a look at the source. The middle of 2000 and 21 males had gone up to 9% and women had gone up from 9% to 23 and a half percent. I always crying my eyes out, Diana, when I was reading this stuff. I thought, this is a call to arms and I'm in a really good position to do this, so let's do this.

So even with that information, and you as a doctor, I'm sure you hear a lot of these real life events and causes and everything, but we have to know that, push it to the side, carry on with our work, keep it all upbeat, find new ways to move forwards and just make everyone's life so much better.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Yeah. You are hitting on something that is so real. Again, Prior to the pandemic, we really didn't talk about mental health like, or we really didn't talk about A D H D because we just assume it's a kid being shy in the back of the room, or it's a kid being disruptive or whatever. Kid being lazy, right?

They're not doing their work as they need to, and we just dismissed it, but it was. Okay. Quote unquote, because they had a community they could still come back to, like they had a teacher, they had a coach, they had different people they could do, right? Then pandemic happens. Then all of a sudden it's you and mom doing home homeschool or doing virtual thing or doing something, and it's.

Not that human connection that would have allowed you to understand more stuff, right? And all. And maybe if they are on the computer, what are they doing? They're looking at social media at the picture, perfect thing, and da. And people don't post all their shit. They post all their beautiful things.

And you don't know that pe everybody's going through something different, but you. You don't understand that sometimes the reality is not the reality and you orchestrate all these things. And unfortunately, I've had this conversation too with a lot of ER physicians and I and I see it as a primary care doctor, but a lot of ER physicians say, I used to have one or two suicidal teenagers, like every three to three.

They're like, now I have five per shift or 12 hour shift. That's crazy. And again, and it goes back to not putting mental health front and center and this is why like you and I connected because I think we're both on the same mission of normalizing the need to use all the tools and not make one be better than the other.

While medication yes, can bring clarity. It's not gonna fill in all the other gaps. It's not going to help you set up those behavioral systems. It's not gonna help you to realize you need to go run or to meditate or to dance or to take pause, , or to do all the other things. And so it's so important to know that and then to go forth and change different ways and like you said, we are doing, knowing the why we're doing.

Is what's so important and a lot, and sometimes we, I don't know about you, but we all go into like the you should be doing this for free because da. And it's yeah. But all those hours of me studying and trying to give you the best tools and understanding and grasping like.

It's still work and it's not just work. It's amazing value that you're going to provide to hopefully alter the trajectory of that person's life. And it's not just for that, but when people pay, they pay attention. , they pay attention. And so I'm so glad that you looked at that data and I know it's coming because you have your kits and you would.

Thought not to be a sadistic of one of your kids, right? My, one of my nieces like had to be hospitalized, because of suicidal ideations. And you would think, okay, where did I go wrong? How come I miss this? I'm the aunt, I'm the one who, but again, everybody is in their own world.

And you don't think about that. You think about how can, here we are, how do we go forward? What do we do? What's the next step? How do I, how do we, what does she want? What do you know? And so she's doing so much better now. But it takes a community, it takes a village. It's not just like whatever.

And did I talk to her about coaching? Yes, of course I did. But not in a sense like you should like. Think yourself something else, but in the sense that, hey, we don't realize that our thoughts sometimes can be playing tricks on us. Like they're not the real thing, right? Yes. And so realizing that there's always a choice and not making a choice is still a choice.

Can help them feel empowered when they feel like they don't have any say so, because you know their parents are gonna say this, or their teachers are gonna say that and their friends are gonna say that. So it's so important to realize that we all can do something for someone. And sometimes it's just sharing the stories that can allow somebody else to see.

There, there might be a different way.

Simon Arnold: And I just wanted to pick up, actually, even though I knew there was something wrong at the age of eight, I always thought, keep yourself healthy. Keep yourself going. I was never addicted to anything. I didn't do any drugs. I never smi, I hadn't even picked up a cigarette before, and just to do that is, is pretty cool. When so many people just find it difficult. And, another thing, when I was medicated for the first time, I thought, oh wow, this is how people can actually think. This is cool. And then I was really disappointed that so many people just don't take the opportunity to.

Realize the best in their lives really. And when I do, I just wanted to put an extra thing in really that even though maybe unfortunately I haven't been through addictions and everything else, I've seen every manner of in as a physiotherapy assistant in medicine, in cancer unit, in the drugs and rehab.

Orthopedics and trauma and you name it, everything. And that's really where all the experience comes from. It's okay, I haven't had it myself, but I've experienced it from others and this is how we go forwards.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Awesome. Thank you. This has been an amazing conversation, . Of course. I'm sure we can go and dissect so many other things, but tell me if.

Where can people find you? Where can people get in touch with you? All right,

Simon Arnold: they can find me on LinkedIn. And that's for the course, the high functioning, gen Z course for the teenagers 13 to 19. Just find me on. On LinkedIn, write me a dm and or to my email address. I'm also on Facebook as well.

Simon Arnold or the 13 Hour Live Coach. Instagram is where you see some really cool pictures there and things. My book is best purchase by lulu.com, the 13 hour Life Coach. And the podcast. Yeah. Available on all, pretty much all podcasts provide us the 13 hour live coach.

And it just it's just good for consistent information about A D H D. And of course, I keep all the records there just in case maybe you, Diana, you're like let's have a look at executive functions. Which one can we go back to? So it's just you can pick and choose. A D H D area that you want to find, so please check me out on all those areas Really.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Awesome. And do send me some of those links so I can put 'em on the show notes so that they can Yes. Will get straight there. Now if my people just started tuning in, because sometimes we have wondering attention, what would be one or two takeaways that you would want them to have from our conversation today?

Simon Arnold: I just wanna tell everyone that they're not broken. Okay. It's like, we are just fine. We just need to use different strategies that, you know that Eva I have, and this is the thing that maybe Diana knows a bit more about a certain area. And we are, we're fine. We are good as we are. We just need to celebrate ourselves and just live our lives really.

If you've got adhd, remember that you are not broken. You are perfect the way that you are. And if you do need any help, just find the best person suited to you really to go

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: forwards. Okay. One last question. What do you hope to see yourself doing for fun in the next three years? More fun.

Simon Arnold: For fun. I intend to speak to so many people using sign language.

I love it. It's something I can use for my hands for and just yeah, just being able to communicate with so many more people in into world now that I've got this opportunity.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Awesome. Thank you so much for being here. I do not know sign language, but maybe I could dance with you. That would be closing up

Yeah, of course. .

Simon Arnold: Yeah.

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