Spiritual Cleansing with Dr. Oxana Ormonova

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Come join me May 1st through the sixth so that you can rest rediscover your strengths, reconnect with yourself and those physicians like you who are ready to leave work at work. And re-energize. This is the invitation for you to make 2023 your year. Join me in Costa Rica in this really amazing, non-judgmental, intimate decision community.

I am gonna show you how to rest and how to recharge. Let's transform your brain. So that you can start to dream the life that you always wanted this year in 2023. I can't wait to, um, learn all about, uh, what kind of year you're gonna have after this conference. Take care. Hello, hello. Welcome to Beyond ADHD, a Physician's Perspective.

I am Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh I'm a family medicine physician practicing in

rural Texas. I used to be hindered by my adhd, but I now. See it as a gift that helps me show up as a person. I was always meant to be both in my work and in my personal life. In the past two years, I've come to realize that unlearning some of my beliefs. And some of my habits were just as important as learning the new set of skills. Well, hello. Hello. I am so excited today. I have a dear friend of mine who has also actually been one of my coaches and, um, I have her here and I'm so excited. Uh, That we are gonna be talking about, uh, energy. We're gonna be talking about how sometimes we get so drained and we wonder like why we are so tired.

And this is, um, my physician friend. This is Dr. Oxana Ormonova. And I'm might have mispronounce that, but I'd like to call her Dr. Oxana Ormonova. So tell me a little bit about yourself, Dr. Oxana.

Dr. Oxana Ormonova: Well, um, thank you so much Janna, for having me here. It's such a treat, but, um, anyway, so I was born near Mongolia and I grew up in Siberia and I went to medical school in Siberia.

And since I was a child, I was very intuitive and I could see things that people could not perceive, right? Yes. And at the same time, I was very, very sensitive. I was sensitive to other people's emotions, um, other people's problems, what they were going through. And, uh, my mom was a physician and I used to make rounds with her, you know, in the hospital when I was four years old.

So, and I always wanted to help people and I always wanted to heal people. So naturally I went to medical school and. Even when I was in medical school, after my lectures, I will go to local clinic and I would put, um, I did hands-on healing where I will put hands-on, uh, people and they were getting better, so their pain was going away.

Uh, they were saying like, oh my God, what did you do? Right? Um, finally, I'm, I'm feeling better and I would go home and I would be just, You know, exhausted. I, I will be just go straight to bed. And I was not realizing back then that I was putting, you know, taking all the energy and absorbing all the emotions.

All the pain, and I was, um, taking it on. And then, um, also many years ago in my training, I was doing, um, rheumatology elective. And of course I was, uh, thinking, oh my God, it's going to be so easy. It's not a surgery rotation. Right. I can, um, get plenty of sleep. It's going to be like a, you know, uh, almost like a vacation, you know?

Right. And so after a few days working, and again with outpatient clinic in this rheumatology, Office office, I started feeling depressed. I was getting all the aches and pains, my joints were hurting, and I was young and I said, what's the heck, what's going on? And I was looking to, um, my attending and she said, oh, it's, it's okay.

I feel like that all the time. And she said, why don't you start taking, um, just. Small dose of antidepressant, you can just take half a pill of antidepressant. And I said, oh my God, I'm in the beginning of my medical training. If I start taking antidepressant now, what I'm looking down through, this is not a solution.

And so, um, and throughout my journey, journey, um, I've been on a, again, um, I tried a lot of different me meditations and, um, You know, I'm always been a seek of truth and so forth, so, and it's made me realize how much as a physicians, we are taken on and you and I see, you know, you are aware of that too. We taken our patients, uh, pain.

We are taking out patients suffering. We are trying to solve the problems and so it's interesting. When I start reflecting, uh, and again, I've worked as a hospitalist for, um, 20 years, almost 20 years, and I start reflecting. I was like, my God, um, why I am sometimes still feeling tired and when I start counting how many patients I've seen throughout my, you know, including med school residents and so forth, and ballpark was at least more than such a thousand patients.

And then I also. Okay. These physicians, we deal with pain and suffering on a daily basis. Um, sometimes we deal with most challenging cases, right? And so I also start thinking how many professions out there in the world who do something like that. It's really right. So it gives you perspective. Where you realize, oh my God, it's not very, something wrong with me.

It's not underachiever or loser or, um, not capable, but it makes you realize, oh my God, this is a lot what I'm dealing with. This make sense?

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Yes. Um, I think as physicians, we just assume that we're supposed to do everything for our patients and then some, right? Mm-hmm. And then we don't realize that sometimes like we have to be the most important patient in the room if we don't take care of us.

Like that could be very draining. But like you said, some of us, um, I'm gonna make a general statement, but usually females tend to. Be more in tune with what, uh, the oth the patient in the room is sharing. And sometimes we, yes, we take our time with them, but like you said, we feel like it's our duty to like solve all of their problems like so many times, like I.

I've been like getting onto good Rx to find the cheapest like medication at the cheapest store so that I could get to them. Like I'm pretty sure most physicians just write the prescription and walk out of the room, but I would put myself in their shoes. If I didn't have insurance, I would want somebody else to go the extra mile.

Mm-hmm. And, and again, it's not that, uh, it's good or bad, it's just that being aware. If you do that on top of whatever's already expected, like it can drain you even more and more and more because of the current system, the way it's set up. Mm-hmm. It's not meant to give you that flexibility to be able to do those kind of things.

Dr. Oxana Ormonova: Yes, and this is exactly what I was going to talk about too, because again, most of us, we go to medical school because we want to help people, we want to heal people. Just like you said, we put our heart and soul in trying to, um, help patients. And exactly what you said, it's not about just providing treatment, it's trying to find a placement, trying to find a nursing home, or, um, somebody's homeless, you know, you try to find place for them.

Right. And so, um, and because people, we are dealing. We're in so much fear. We're in emotional pain, we're in physical pain. And because of that, you, us as a physicians, we see us as like we we're trying to grab onto us, right? We are, we in survival. And so, um, and we're like, okay, this is a person who can help me, right?

And so it's, and, and I don't blame them because this is the way as I add. And so it's almost. When somebody is drowning and you're trying to save them, if you are not careful enough, they will drown you. Right? Because we panic, we an anxiety, they're grabbing onto you. And so it's almost energetically this is how it is.

And um, uh, this patients and in our me medical system, because also medical system is set on principle where patients come to the physician and they go. You are my doctor, fix me. And you probably heard it so many times, right? And we, it, the system said that, okay, patients give all the responsibilities for their health and we put it on a doctor's shoulder and so many of us against raw medical training, it's, it's expected.

We trained like sad and, but exactly what you said. You have to make yourself a priority even when you're on a plane. You know, if I go, okay, put oxygen mask first on yourself, and then put it on your child. Right? So at least you know, airlines got it. Right. So hopefully our, you know, our medical, you know, society and system get, you know, catch, catch up with it.

Yeah. And so, and what happened? As Einstein's, you know, you can't argue with Albert Einstein. He said, everything is energy. So our emotions, our feelings, our thoughts, our en vibrations of our, um, bodies, it's all energy. And so all of us, we are like radio stations. We absorb, um, everybody, you know, our, everybody else, emotions, thoughts.

So, and a lot of times people don't. That some of the feelings we're having, it's not even their own, they're picking it up from a loved one or, um, from their patients. From their clients. I, I work with a lot of coaches too. And so w you know, there is a lot of anxiety in the world right now and, uh, people don't realize, oh, the reason I'm feeling.

Because I'm tuning in and picking it up from what's going on in the world.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Yeah. So how did you first start to realize that? Okay, so you, like you said, you realized that. All this world is is energy. We are energy. And most of us will always say we're depleted of energy. Mm-hmm. Most of us say, oh my God, I'm so drained, or, I'm so exhausted, I'm so tired.

Like how did you, during all those years, like how did you finally learn to like manage your energy or, or to be more mindful about it so that you wouldn't continue to allow yourself to be so depleted? Mm-hmm. That's a

Dr. Oxana Ormonova: great question. And again, it's. Many, many years of, uh, trying different meditation techniques and, um, practicing different, um, again, um, tools and so forth.

What I realized, oh wait, and it's actually, um, this is a great story. Two days ago I was, um, talking to Mel's physician and I was telling him, oh, I'm going to be, um, talking, uh, on a podcast about how to maintain. Energy boundaries, and so you're not picking up, uh, patient's energies. And, and he's retired and he said, oh, why would any physician want to learn that?

He said, physicians just build walls and this is what works, right? He said, oh, you know, we, we just built walls so we, we are not. Absorbing. Cause, you know, patients pain and emotions. Why would somebody want to learn something different? Isn't it amazing? Yeah. And, and I was just, oh my God. So this person saw that this is actually the way to, to go about it.

And, and I don't notice, notice again, a lot of us doing that. So I would say I'm noticed more male physicians maybe doing that compared to female physic. But again, it doesn't work in a long, in a long term. So let's say if you are running a code and you have to tune out everything around you, um, let's say yes, you are in, you know, in that space for whatever, 30 minutes, one hour.

But if you don't snap out of it and it keeps you, you carry it on for many years, um, days after days. Then it starts affecting your relationship with yourself, right? It's because you are not processing it. So you still, the building falls out of resistance, out of, again, trying to protect yourself. So, and then it starts affecting your own relationship with yourself.

And that's why, you know, there is so much suicide and oppositions with so much depression. It affects your relationship with your children. Um, your loved. So it's not a solution. Does this make sense? What,

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: what? Yeah, yeah. Like energy is meant to be, emotions are meant to be like a compass. Like, uh, you know, to understand happiness, we have to understand pain.

Cause we need to understand one from the other, right? And yes, like you said, there's periods of time. It is beneficial to kind of turn ourselves off like in the middle of a code so that you become, quote, unquote objective in whatever you're doing. Mm-hmm. And you focus on that. But after the fact, if you don't reflect or even take two seconds to realize that you were dealing with life and debt situation, that you, that life is fragile, like, mm.

Like if you don't look at like, what if that would've been me on the table, or what if it would've been my family member or, or my husband, or whatever. Right. Like if you don't reflect the humanity of it. Mm-hmm. Like you could miss the opportunity of what you were in front of. And when we don't reflect on it, I mean, even though while you're going through it, it sucks.

Mm-hmm. If you don't reflect on like being grateful that you are still breathing, that you are still here, right? Then you miss the opportunity to process. Like what a beautiful gift you could have given to that person if you brought them back and now they had a chance of X, Y, Z for many years to come, right?

Mm-hmm. Or if you didn't bring them back, knowing that you did the best that you could in that moment in. Yeah. And so, uh, so I think in, in terms of that, I can see why it's a protective mechanism and I can see why it's helpful, but I can also see that if you do that one too many times without the reflection part of it, mm-hmm.

You can get lost.

Dr. Oxana Ormonova: Mm-hmm. Yes. And this is what I see in, again, in so many of my clients, they say, I feel disconnected, or I have a hard time forming connection with people or, and, and most importantly, um, having true connection with yourself. So with your own emotions, right? And so, And

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: again, and I think Covid, sorry to interrupt you.

Mm-hmm. I think Covid did a number for all of us. Like yes, it ma it forced us to realize that maybe before we had a community we could tap into and like you felt like, oh, they can help me. They can help me. Mm-hmm. But then when everybody was functioning from a place of fear, from a place of like, oh my God, I'm gonna bring X, Y, Z to my nanny, or to mm-hmm.

Blah, blah, blah. To my elderly neighbor, I'm gonna be the one getting them sick. They're gonna die. You then kept away, right? We were no longer in community, and all of a sudden you were even more drained because you didn't have that extra help that you needed, and therefore you were even more depleted with your energy.

And again, we were functioning from a place of survival like you were just. Trying to survive. And then well, and, and for some people like that's primary care physicians, but I know some like specialists that were told like, we don't need you go sit down. They were like in heaven because they're like, Woohoo, I have to get one third of my patients.

Right. So like mm-hmm. But at the end of the day, I think it was tiring and draining for physicians because while everybody. Or were forced to take a stop and reflect, or not reflect, but at least take a stop. Like we were never given that freedom. Mm-hmm. To take a stop or like, unless you quit because you know you had some mobility or you felt like you couldn't handle whatever, or whatever your point was.

It's not that you couldn't handle, but you made a personal choice, right? Mm-hmm. So for the most part, I feel like in the last three years there's been a. Cultural, mental physician, mind awakening. Mm-hmm. Realizing that maybe being drained. I wasn't drained when I was at home. Maybe this is not the norm.

Maybe I shouldn't be drained all the time. Right.

Dr. Oxana Ormonova: Because it's, again, we, we are so used to it through medical training. Um, it's, it's like it almost becomes a norm. And I still remember when I was a resident and I would be like, oh my God, I'm on call every 36 hours. And some older physicians would say, oh, why are you complaining?

Um, when I was in my medical training, when I was a physician, I was on call every single day. Yeah. So it's was, and this was a standard, right? So this was, you know, expectation and it's. Interesting. You know, what I see with some of the, um, some of my clients who have a D H D, and again, I work, uh, with a a D G clients, so I, I see it on a different, um, again, on a different level.

So I, coming from perspective, looking at energy, um, again, being intuitive, um, being a spiritual healer and what I see, um, in a lot of people who have a d h. They have tremendous amount of creativity. They're super creative. Um, a lot of them have a lot of energy. And so what's happening is you, you again, especially, you know, when we are kids, right?

Our school system is trying to put everybody in a box. It's like a cookie cutter right system. And so a lot of those kids, they don't fit in. It's, you know, they have maybe more creativity that other kids have in, in, in the class. And so, and then we, you know, we get labeled you too much or, you know, get quiet or, um, don't, don't talk.

Right. And so, um, and another thing is, again, a lot of them I see they're very, very cap. But because through their life, again, even since, um, we were kids, we maybe were invalidated, we were criticized. So it's, you know, it starts, um, affecting them in a, in a, in the long ground. And sometimes I think about, um, little Mo.

You know, when he was a child and every, you know, and he was super creative. So I think if he was, um, you know, in present time and he was in school, he would be labeled a A D H D, right? So, because people, um, didn't know, would not know how to handle, handle him and handle his creativity. So, and another thing I noticed because.

ADHD people, a lot of them have a lot of creativity, so people around them, I mean, they recognize in some ways how capable the person is, and they go like, oh, why don't you do this? You have so much energy, or Why don't you do that? And then sometimes you taking it on and on and you end up with, you know, your, your plate is full.

So, You can't catch up with all those things on your plate. And then those people who gave you all those tasks start criticizing you. They're like, oh, you better time management. Or, um, but you didn't finish that. So, and like you said, learning, like what you're learning is how to maintain boundaries, right.

Or how to set boundaries and, um, which is so, so important.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Yeah. So, uh, it's, it's coming to understand that you. There's certain executive functions and some of the, some of them we are better at than others. Like, you know, maybe you're good at planning. Mm-hmm. Maybe, but maybe you're not so good at task initiation.

Right. So you can plan, but you're not gonna ever start the task. Or you have a lack of awareness of how long it's gonna take you, you know? Mm-hmm. A time, uh, or you feel like, Have a month and then before you know it, it's like I have a week. Oh my God. You know? And, and so I think realizing that, why are we saying yes before looking at our calendar?

Like maybe we've been conditioned to say yes and we don't wanna feel like we're disappointing somebody. Yes. So that boundary there might not seem like a big deal. But if you just kind of said, Hey, let me look at my calendar and I'll get back to you. Like, it's gonna save you so much drama, because then you're gonna realize, oh, I was already overbooked.

Or you're gonna realize you were not even in town that week and you said yes to something. Right? And so I think we, we forget that part of these boundaries have to do with, again, the in. Realization that we wanna belong. And, and it's not that we're trying to people please, but we want them to like us. And of course we wanna say yes to everything.

Mm-hmm. But saying yes to everything you're, that you're saying no somewhere to something. And it's likely something to yourself that involves you and your self-care and your self rest. So, um, those boundaries, when you implement them, they're really meant to be there to protect your energy and.

Dr. Oxana Ormonova: Exactly what you said.

And, and another I want to add is because again, I see people with, uh, A D H D, they have a lot of creativity, a lot of creative energy is, uh, learning how to channel it. So, because when you have so much, right, you could do this and you could do that, and you can do, um, you're so capable, you can do 10 other things.

So choosing, um, again, what you were mentioning, prioritizing, so it's, oh, Or even when I see a lot of people have a lot of gifts, again, creative energy, it's all our self-expression. And so one thing you choose as, for example, you can choose as your career. Another thing you choose as your hobby. So another thing you choose, you know, as your second hobby, whatever it is.

So then it's you channel link your creative energy. You streamline in it, right? So then it's creates less that, um, it's like, oh my God, you know, I don't know what I wanna do. Um, and then sometimes you, um, maybe people don't accomplish, um, what they want to do. So, but again, I just want to validate, um, those people who have a D H D who are listening to this podcast, I want to validate them that, again, some of their.

What problems we're experiencing is because we have a lot of creativity, we have much more creative energies than, you know, maybe people around them. And we have a lot of energy because creative energy is, it's energy. So we just, uh, one types of

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: energy. And I, and something that came up, um, and I can't remember if it came up during one of our coaching sessions when you were coaching my group or when you were coaching.

Oh, uh, when I went to one of your workshops was the, the fact that some strategies that are meant to protect us. Sometimes don't because we don't give ourselves the time to implement them. Like the sleep, right? The exercise, like, uh, the low carved diet, like sometimes we don't realize that those do play a role in there somewhere.

And then we wonder, why can't I focus long enough, right? Mm-hmm. And, and we don't realize that all those are affecting how we're showing up.

Dr. Oxana Ormonova: Absolutely. And. As we were talking, um, again about how we absorbing, um, others, our patients energies and so forth, it's, you know, first the key is awareness. Even recognizing that, validating yourself, going like, oh my God, I've seen in my life thousands and thousands of patients.

Um, how many people out there in the world even capable of doing what I'm doing? I. So many times my friends would say, I don't know how you do it. I would never be able to do what you do. And so, and given ourselves a break when let's say you are on your day off and you're beaten yourself up because you're like, oh my God, laundry's piling up and I have no energy to get to this, you know, pile of laundry.

So give yourself a break. Don't beat yourself up and realize. I am going through a lot. What I am dealing with is a lot. And so then you st instead of invalidating yourself, you start validating yourself. You start recognizing your power. You start recognizing your capabilities. And another thing, what I, uh, teach people might be helpful is when you start feeling, for example, sad or depressed, or you're feeling anxious, you can ask.

Wait a minute. What I'm experiencing right now are those my feelings or I'm picking it up from somebody else because majority people on the planet, we are not aware that we are constantly picking up other people's emotions and thoughts and including with thoughts. You know, if you're thinking something, um, you know, And your life is doing okay and all of a sudden you start, you know, having some weird thoughts.

You can ask yourself, okay, are those my thoughts? Or I'm picking it up from somebody else. So yeah, and then you can ask like just such simple think, you can ask your awareness and say, okay, my awareness, I want to be aware of my own feelings. Please, let's shift my own feeling. So, and again, everything starts with awareness.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Yeah. Yeah. Everything does start with awareness because again, if we just assume that, that what I'm feeling or experiencing is because of something I did directly. Mm-hmm. Um, like we might miss that. You know, we, we can control our thoughts and feelings sometimes when we're aware, but if we're not aware, we, we feel like we're giving away all our energy to other people.

Right. Um, and, and we all have had those difficult patients sometimes where you just feel like exhausted and drained. Like they wanted 20,000 things. Then you're like, oh my God. And they're like, energy vampires. It's like, gimme back my energy. Take back your monkey. Like I don. I don't wanna keep your monkey, you know?

Um, but I think having tips and strategies to protect and refuel our energy would probably like be something that you guys can start to implement today. And it could be very, well be something like, um, Being mindful before you walk in the room, like making sure mm-hmm. That you know you're fully present and making sure that after so many patients, you're taking a break or you're for five minutes of meditation or just a water break, or just going outside, like something that is not like patient related.

That, I mean, just throughout the day, sometimes we charge your phones because it's dying. Like why wouldn't we recharge ourselves? Yes.

Dr. Oxana Ormonova: It's so important what you said. I love you. The analogy you said, we chat your forms. I was like, oh my God. This is, this is, um, such a great analogy. And also, um, you know, having this, like you, just exactly what you said, having a system in place where however it works for you, so is a, you have to have a, um, you know, After you see five patients or, um, whatever it is, or you have to after work, at least walk in nature for five minutes.

So, and also recognizing that we are all different and recognizing what works for you or what works for somebody else might not work for you. So for somebody seeing 25 patients a day, it's not a big deal, but maybe for you. Um, seeing 15 patients a day, this is your limit, right? So, um, after 15 patients, you, oh, 10 patients, whatever, whatever is the number.

And so not invalidating yourself because somebody else, um, achieving more or, um, seeing more patients, right? Because we are all, all very, very different. And when I'm teaching, uh, physicians and coaches about how maintain. Energy boundaries a lot of times, um, because it's exactly almost like, you know, built like this physician said, oh, we just built walls.

What's a big deal? Uh, but it's coming out of resistance, coming out of fear. And so when uh, people tell me like, oh, uh, how do I protect my energy? And I teach them it's not about protection. Because again, when we think about protect. They're coming out of like, we have to wall something off. And so I'm saying, oh, you're just learning how to maintain it.

How to maintain and replenish. So then you are not, again, you are not trying to, um, build like a, a wall wall or fortress around you because you phrase it.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Um, yeah. So when we're asked to multitask, We might be able to do one or two things. Exactly. Then you throw like five things on there. Then you can quickly see why our brains become overwhelmed or anxious or mad.

Like we are like, you know, we don't wanna be bothered, and so, mm-hmm. I think those are the type of boundaries that you have to understand your own limits so that you don't get to the place where all of a sudden you look like you're just blowing off steam. Mm-hmm. Because you weren't even aware that.

What steps did I miss three decisions ago? Instead of just saying, no, I can't do this, or, no, let me do it this way, or let, or let me ask a clarifying question. What is the priority here? Is the priority seeing that patient right here in the clinic? Or is it seeing the patient in the hospital or is it writing this, uh, these orders that you just brought and you pulled me out of the room for like, what is the true priority here so that we can reach.

Whatever needs to be reached at the end of the day. Mm-hmm. Without feeling like you are the one who's depleted and then being labeled as, you know, misunderstood or not the team player. And then, uh, we get ourselves into trouble.

Dr. Oxana Ormonova: Yes, exactly. And you know, when I, one of the tricks I, I do, and sometimes I teach also, Physicians, it's, you know, after you see a patient and you get out of the, you know, came out of the room and you washing your hands, but while you're washing your hands, you can just imagine that any energy you picked up from the patient just drains down the sink, right?

You just washing it off, like you cleansing it all from your energy field. Um, all the pain, all the emotions, and just being, again, aware of it or being mindful about. And then you just go, oh, I just wanna feel my own energy. Um, I want to be rep. Replenish is my own vitality, my own life force. Um, so this is something what people can do.

And again, our system is built on. I don't know about your training, but when I went through my training, it's almost like you're supposed to feel your patient's. And I heard, and you probably heard too, from so many patients, um, I would try to cheer them up and I would be, okay, you know, let's make you feel better.

Let's, you know, get you home. Um, and they would be a, oh, you don't know what I'm feeling, so you don't know what I'm going through. You are not feeling my pain. And it's almost like accusation. So, and sometimes again, this is, um, how we trained. Oh, we have to, we have to do that, but it doesn't help our patient.

It doesn't help us. And this was again, what I teach, um, physicians. It's how do you, what's the difference between being in sympathy to somebody, being in sympathy to your patient versus, um, being in a state of compassion, which is very, very different. Yes, this is would be another great reminder.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Yeah, those are amazing tools and tips there.

Okay, so if people wanna reach out to you, where can they find you? Uh, do you have an email to share or, um, should they just reach to me or how should we, where can they, you have a website you can share with us? Yes. They can find

Dr. Oxana Ormonova: me on, uh, my website and it's Divine Wellness MD dot. I'm also on Instagram, the same name, divine Wellness mg.com.

You can email me, uh, and my email is aana and divine wellness mg.com. And uh, I'm also Lincoln. So yes, would love to connect and I love your podcast and I love, um, how you're helping physicians with A D H D and. Yes, you are a trailblazer.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: Thank you. Now, if my physicians just started paying attention because we have wandering attention mm-hmm.

Um, what is one takeaway point you want them to have?

Dr. Oxana Ormonova: Well, is again, to recognize how capable they are to recognize that part of the label. The society labels them as a D H D. Because they have a lot of creative energy. They have a lot of energy and learning how to channel it in the right direction and use it to their advantage, instead its resume becomes like a destruction, right?

So, um, this would be take away, be besides what we already talked about. Talked

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: about. Awesome. So what do you hope to do for fun in the next three? Oh,

Dr. Oxana Ormonova: well, um, I enjoy teaching. I enjoy teaching physicians and, uh, coaches and, um, doing my one-on-one coaching. So, and um, yes, building the practice, serving people, and, uh, it's my, my passion again after Any, any travel

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: plans?

Oh,

Dr. Oxana Ormonova: always. I love to travel, so, and I love to travel to foreign. So, um, I love learning about different cultures and meet people from different parts of the world. Awesome. Yes, definitely.

Dr. Diana Mercado-Marmarosh: So, all right, well, thank you so much for your time and for your amazing advice. And there you have it. You, you guys have to start implementing some of those energy boundaries.

It could be as simple as remembering to allow all the energy that is not yours to be back to its source and you keep yours and. Being willing to, to ask yourself, what is draining me? What can I let go of and what is refueling me? What can I do more of? Because the things that are fueling you probably have really good dopamine for you, and you should do more of those so that you can show up better in the world.

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